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In the interest of continuing our CTP improvements and while fresh in our minds, Owen suggested we do a post-mortem to discuss successes and possible improvements for our next event.

 

The meeting will take place in the VATCAN TS meeting channel. Hope to see you all there!

Travis Chan (1402756)

Deputy Division Director

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Cya there!

 

 

 

In the interest of continuing our CTP improvements and while fresh in our minds, Owen suggested we do a post-mortem to discuss successes and possible improvements for our next event.

 

The meeting will take place in the VATCAN TS meeting channel. Hope to see you all there!

Phil Dowling  (813710)
VATCAN Division Director

p.dowling@vatcan.ca
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Thanks to all that attended, we had some very constructive ideas that we'll look to implement/coordinate for future events.

 

************ Meeting Minutes from 04/02/2019@23:99z ***************

 

1) Discuss the possibility of creating a specialized VATCAN team similar to the VATUSA ACE team that can control nationally.

- Does this make sense?

- How do we set criteria for using this team?

- Better alternatives?

 

2) Non-event traffic was an issue with aircraft appearing suddenly in Edmonton airspace Travis to discuss with CTP planning team:

- Is there anything we can do about this traffic?

- What can we do about non-event traffic that uses event traffic routing, how do we manage this?

a) Adding afk alias proved to be effective. Recommend all en-route use the following afk alias message:

 

.afk Due to the Cross the Pont Event and the heavy amount of traffic on one frequency, please do not ask/announce any AFKs. You are responsible for maintaining your presence at the controls.

 

3) The routing document proved to be useful for en-route positions that needed to hand-off traffic.

a)  Recommend we coordinate next time with VATUSA to further improve its usefulness

b) Coordinate with VATUSA to address ARTCC's that wouldn't accept traffic hand-offs

 

4) Traffic manager position could be useful but use was limited in this event due to issues with using an unfamiliar controller client. To increase capabilities recommend the following:

a) Use Edmonton FSS sector file allowing for 1500 kM range

b) Advertise the position in pilot briefings and advertise the frequency to VATCAN CTP controllers

 

5) We experienced frequency collisions in this event with Moncton and Quebec ATIS. We also experienced this with CZEG_FSS and Houston. CZUL Chief has acknowledged this and will avoid using Quebec ATIS during CTP events. Moncton will look at another option for frequency or use that frequency as a last resort.

- We discussed Is it possible to pre-publish frequencies? It might prove to be difficult because we are uncertain about staffing levels and the frequencies that will be in use

 

6) The West routes helped relieve the strain on Moncton though they ended up with more tracks than expected because of the Southern NAT tracks in use. We will want to again see if we can have West fields in the next CTP to spread control usage.

 

7) There was some disappointment to the VATSIM's planning teams lack of acknowledgement for work that the controllers had completed

 

8 ) Controllers outside of VATCAN feel isolated because we aren't able to communicate with Oceanic controllers. Propose that we all use the same TS server in the future for all controlling regions to aid in facilitation and communication.

Travis Chan (1402756)

Deputy Division Director

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Sorry I could not attend. Seems like a number of good suggestions.

 

Per the CYQB ATIS Freq, just a suggestion: CYQB does have a secondary ATIS frequency. It is supposed to be for the French ATIS, but could we repurpose it during events involving CYQM? Is this too much work for an irregular problem?

 

Rob

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Director of Training, VATCAN

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Sorry I could not attend. Seems like a number of good suggestions.

 

Per the CYQB ATIS Freq, just a suggestion: CYQB does have a secondary ATIS frequency. It is supposed to be for the French ATIS, but could we repurpose it during events involving CYQM? Is this too much work for an irregular problem?

 

Rob

 

The French ATIS frequency for CYQB is 128.300, this is also used by Toronto Centre for the Timmins Sector. Wouldn't that just be the same problem?

Alexandre Dufresne (1314808)
FIR Chief & Facility Engineer - FIR de Montréal

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