David Crewson Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 A first for me yesterday, was flying into CYYZ with snow, poor weather and upon tuning to Ground and listening to ATIS, there was something about if you require De-Icing, let ground know. As I was taxiing, there were calls to go to the central de-icing...I've searched about this but can't find a procedure, what happens when you go there, how long etc. Does anyone have any information on the de-icing procedures. Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stevenson Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Some people simulate de-icing procedures, I think there are some addons you can get to actually simulate it, otherwise, they just ask for it, get taxied to the de ice pads, wait a few minutes pretending they are getting de-iced and then call for taxi to the runway. How long they wait usually depends on the equipment they are flying, obviously takes longer to deice a 777 than a 737 or 320 can be anywhere from a just a few minutes to 10 -15. Ben Stevenson Chief Instructor torontofir.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Crewson Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Thanks for the note. I am fairly new to VATSIM/VATCAN and I kinda thought that is what might be going on. Still a cool realistic feature though. I'll have to try it out next time. Also do you know for X-Plane/Vatsim if there is a realistic weather package that depicts actual weather on ground. For example flying into CYYZ yesterday it was calling for snow (which I saw in the air) but also the ATIS said runways had light snow/slush etc. and when I broke through, the runway appeared as it normally does during dry conditions but the Tower asked me about landing conditions and braking - didn't know how to answer that or if it does simulate conditions if it doesn't actually show them. Cheers and I appreciate your answers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stevenson Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I don't know if there is, it wouldn't surprise me to find one. I just use Active Sky for my weather but i don't think it really does anything with weather on the ground like wet/snowy runways. Ben Stevenson Chief Instructor torontofir.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Crewson Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Thank you Ben for your time. I was wondering about getting Active Sky but have read conflicting stories. Obviously you have it and so I am wondering your review of it. I currently use the built in X-Plane weather generator when on VatSim...have you noticed improved weather with Active Sky? tks d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stevenson Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I'm on P3Dv4, i like Active Sky for weather, seems to be pretty accurate, it can be a bit of a process hog if you tune it way up but i like it. Ben Stevenson Chief Instructor torontofir.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Nabieszko Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Does anyone have any information on the de-icing procedures. From an airport perspective, most Canadian airports, especially those with a Central Deice Facility will have a chart with information published about the CDF. Check your chart source. CDFs, like all aprons, are uncontrolled. They will usually have a pad controller though that provides direction much like an apron controller. Most of the time on VATSIM, pad control is not simulated. As far as aircraft, most aircraft have a specific deicing checklist as they must be configured a certain way. Things such as flaps staying up, trim full down, bleeds and packs off are some of the considerations so configuring and then reconfiguring for takeoff is a fun challenge. And lastly, timewise, application depends on the number of trucks in use, the size of your aircraft, and whether you need Type I or Type I and IV fluid. The real issue is that in active precipitation, the fluids are only effective for a limited time, known as the HoldOver Time or HOT. You must depart before your HOT expires. This can be a real challenge depnding on taxi routes, traffic, etc. Rob Nabieszko rnczyzcontrol@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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