David Crewson 0 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 A first for me yesterday, was flying into CYYZ with snow, poor weather and upon tuning to Ground and listening to ATIS, there was something about if you require De-Icing, let ground know. As I was taxiing, there were calls to go to the central de-icing...I've searched about this but can't find a procedure, what happens when you go there, how long etc. Does anyone have any information on the de-icing procedures. Thanks Dave Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Stevenson 0 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Some people simulate de-icing procedures, I think there are some addons you can get to actually simulate it, otherwise, they just ask for it, get taxied to the de ice pads, wait a few minutes pretending they are getting de-iced and then call for taxi to the runway. How long they wait usually depends on the equipment they are flying, obviously takes longer to deice a 777 than a 737 or 320 can be anywhere from a just a few minutes to 10 -15. Ben Stevenson Chief Instructor Toronto FIR (CZYZ)torontofir.ca Link to post Share on other sites
David Crewson 0 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Thanks for the note. I am fairly new to VATSIM/VATCAN and I kinda thought that is what might be going on. Still a cool realistic feature though. I'll have to try it out next time. Also do you know for X-Plane/Vatsim if there is a realistic weather package that depicts actual weather on ground. For example flying into CYYZ yesterday it was calling for snow (which I saw in the air) but also the ATIS said runways had light snow/slush etc. and when I broke through, the runway appeared as it normally does during dry conditions but the Tower asked me about landing conditions and braking - didn't know how to answer that or if it does simulate conditions if it doesn't actually show them. Cheers and I appreciate your answers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Stevenson 0 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I don't know if there is, it wouldn't surprise me to find one. I just use Active Sky for my weather but i don't think it really does anything with weather on the ground like wet/snowy runways. Ben Stevenson Chief Instructor Toronto FIR (CZYZ)torontofir.ca Link to post Share on other sites
David Crewson 0 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Thank you Ben for your time. I was wondering about getting Active Sky but have read conflicting stories. Obviously you have it and so I am wondering your review of it. I currently use the built in X-Plane weather generator when on VatSim...have you noticed improved weather with Active Sky? tks d Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Stevenson 0 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I'm on P3Dv4, i like Active Sky for weather, seems to be pretty accurate, it can be a bit of a process hog if you tune it way up but i like it. Ben Stevenson Chief Instructor Toronto FIR (CZYZ)torontofir.ca Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Nabieszko 0 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Does anyone have any information on the de-icing procedures. From an airport perspective, most Canadian airports, especially those with a Central Deice Facility will have a chart with information published about the CDF. Check your chart source. CDFs, like all aprons, are uncontrolled. They will usually have a pad controller though that provides direction much like an apron controller. Most of the time on VATSIM, pad control is not simulated. As far as aircraft, most aircraft have a specific deicing checklist as they must be configured a certain way. Things such as flaps staying up, trim full down, bleeds and packs off are some of the considerations so configuring and then reconfiguring for takeoff is a fun challenge. And lastly, timewise, application depends on the number of trucks in use, the size of your aircraft, and whether you need Type I or Type I and IV fluid. The real issue is that in active precipitation, the fluids are only effective for a limited time, known as the HoldOver Time or HOT. You must depart before your HOT expires. This can be a real challenge depnding on taxi routes, traffic, etc. Rob Nabieszko | VATCAN3 Director of Training, VATCAN rnczyzcontrol@gmail.com Link to post Share on other sites
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